In a phone interview with CNN, Philip R. Greaves II of Pueblo explains the philosophy behind his controversial book on pedophiles that was for sale on Amazon.com. “True pedophiles,” he says, “love children and would never hurt them…Penetration is out. You can’t do that with a child, but kissing and fondling I don’t think is that big of a problem.”

Greaves, who is at the center of a national firestorm for his book, The Pedophile’s Guide to Love and Pleasure: A Child-Lover’s Code of Conduct, claims he has never had sexual contact with a child as an adult, but he did when he was a teenager and was “introduced to oral sex” at the age of seven by an older female. The book has caused outrage across the nation, as well as in Colorado, where Mike Harris, an investigator for the Jefferson County District Attorney’s Office, has arrested more than 470 pedophiles. “When it fuels the motive for people on how to approach kids, how to find kids, how to touch kids and sexually abuse them, that’s just wrong,” Harris tells 9News.

Meanwhile, Lisa Hogan, an attorney with Brownstein Hyatt Farber Schreck, says the book appears to be covered by the First Amendment, which does not protect obscenity or child pornography but might support written words about them. Regardless, Amazon.com has apparently removed the book in response to the protests, writes UPI.